for me it's harder to believe that barack obama sat in at that pew for 20 years and didn't hear any of this vile stuff than a 22-year-old kid fell in somebody he never met as crazy as that is, and that's the danger that journalists believe stuff that they should be more skeptical about. >> megyn: now they will be. i mean, in their defense in the manti te'o case, you know, there wasn't some long history of, i guess, players laying about girlfriend and we better check that out. now they'll have to. >> well, there's an old saying and it was a title of a book "trust your mother, but cut the cards" and i think that applies, because you have to be more suspicious of things than you normally would be because something like this is going to pop up every now and then, and it makes all of these mainstream journal i-s look a little silly. isn't it interesting, by the way, that espn, sports illustrated, all the big newspapers, none of them uncovered the truth of this. it was a website, deadspin, that often, not always, but often deals with salacious sex related stories that did the real journalism